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Posted on 04-14-08 10:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ok, a guy from a college asked me a question about tax and I was unsure. Here it is:

1. What are the benefits of filing taxes as a non-resident vs. resident? I told him that you get higher deductions as a  resident alien but you will have to pay social security and medicare taxes. But, how much benefit can someone going to a college can get from that?
2. How much can they benefit by claiming to be non-residents in OPT period? I guess they will save more during this period by claiming to be non-residents?
3. What are the standard deductions these college kids can take this year?

Thx.

 
Posted on 04-14-08 10:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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 I came to know that you can't file as resident before 183 days of stay in the US. For those who came in Fall 2007, its non-resident.

Regarding deduction (State :MA):

Even if you have full assistantship (of range $20000-$25000 per year), you will not get more than $350 including both Federal and MA state tax refund. Not much but its law, you have to fill the tax return if you earning legally.

 
Posted on 04-14-08 10:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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If you are here for more than 5 years you must file as a resident for tax purposes.

 
Posted on 04-14-08 10:47 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am taking about those who came in Fall 2007 only.

 
Posted on 04-14-08 10:49 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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My question was about those who do qualify as residents for tax purposes but who can choose to be non-residents based on their F-1 visa status and those who have not yet applied for H1B.

 
Posted on 04-14-08 10:57 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am not sure about that because I don't fall under that category. But one of my friend who is here since 1.5 years filed residential tax return. According to him, you will get more refund as a resident than as a non-resident.

Thanks

 
Posted on 04-15-08 12:03 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here is the answer to ur questions.

 

Regardless of whether ur resident or non resident,

standard ded including personal exemption: for single is 8750, meaning if u make this or less than this then u will get all federal tax back, state limitations are different.

if u r in OPT-no ssn or medicare tax

if u r in h1b, greencard or us citizen=pay all taxes

If u r here in the usa in nonimmigrant visa for less than 5 yrs=file 1040 NR , that is the only rule.

183 days rule might be for MA ...this might not even be for nonresident, it might be for us citizens & residents allien ...can't help here ..not fom MA

183 days rule that doesnot apply to any federal tax. only 5 yr rule.

Most of the foreign students file 1040 EZ or 1040 eventhough they r here for one semester..i personally do not suggest , my professional integrity, but ppl get more refunds for filing as resident cauz they get tuition credits as mentioned below.

 meaning u can deduct tuition fees and get tutiion tax credits. ( only if u paid for it, if u r in scholarship then u did not pay for it so u can't get it back, mind u some scholarship are not tax exempt meaning u r required to pay taxes on that)...this is tax if there are 100 rules then there are 101 exceptions..don't get into it unless u want to ...

Hope credit upto $1650 for first 2 yrs & lifetime learning up to $2000 per year after 2 yrs of postsecondary school.

These credits are not refundable so u can't get the money back unless u paid tax. u can only reduce ur tax liability..The general concept of "geting back" is misleading....

reminds me of newton's 3rd law of motion: every action has equal N opposite reaction.

if ur money caused some action, u will get it back through some tax reaction......no action no reaction...

have fun...

 

 

 


 
Posted on 04-15-08 1:20 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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From what I know, I think it is better to file as non-residents because you would then be exempt from social security and medicare taxes which are around 6% and 2% respectively.

Anthony,
Standard deductions are only for residents or non-residents from those countries that have special tax treaty with USA(like India). F-1 students can only claim an exemption of 3400. Check your facts on this one. In addition, you have to pay social security and medicare if you file as a resident irrespective of whether you are in OPT or not. Good thing is, when you are in OPT, you can still claim to be non-resident as long as you have not applied for H1B or other status change with an intent to immigrate on a permanent basis and if you have not been here for more than 5 calendar years.
These points are based on what I read on IRS site.

 
Posted on 04-15-08 9:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Its not better, you are required to file as NR, this is what i suggested, if u are here for less than 5 yrs.

But I know for a fact 99% of the students file as residents. Just info. for u!!

Watever u r saying in ur post, read my post carefully, i summarized that clearly there.

In regards to exemption N deduction, there has been new exceptions added to the list, who can claim or not.

For your reference, some of the rules overlap each other N they are too many exceptions that are not listed in IRS site. Recommendation: File your tax using software, it will automatically pick up the standard deduction and exemptions for you when u choose the right form.


 

 


 


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